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Renting Land  / Property on Koh Chang

If you drive around the island one thing you'll notice is the lack of signs for land or property for rent. You'll see signs for 60 Rai by the beach for sale, which if you have a  couple of million dollars in the bank might be up your street but for anyone who doesn't wear a different Rolex every day of the week the options may seem limited. 

 

Fear not, there are still quite a lot of places for rent, it's just that you only here about them by word of mouth.  This means speaking to locals, they know who the landlords are and what is and what isn't available for rent in a certain area.

 

People to avoid speaking to are the westerners running bars who apparently know it all.  They don't, and neither do I for that matter, but there again I'm not claiming to unlike many of the bar owning experts.  These are the guys that will tell you there's a conspiracy against foreigners renting or buying the cheapest land, the only land to be had anywhere will cost over 10 million baht / rai and that a house barely big enough to swing a cat in, but priced at around 3 million baht is, a realistic price - and luckily for you they know one that's up for sale . . . but you have to act quickly and pay a deposit now!!. 

 

It's also worth mentioning that it's very rare to see any existing business for rent / lease on Koh Chang  that could be described as 'competitive'. Sunbelt Asia run a well-known website for buying/selling/leasing businesses or property in Thailand and they occasionally have property on Koh Chang for sale - worth a look if you're happy to pay a hefty premium to ensure there are no hassles during the buying process.  On the whole when you see a small, recently established business up for sale, alarm bells should start ringing.  More often than not the sale is simply due to the business being unsuccessful and the owner trying to recoup his losses by selling to a fellow foreigner before moving on to another island.    

 

Back in 2003, when we were looking for land to rent to build a coffeeshop & bungalows we knew that we wanted something on the west coast of the island, where 95% of the visitors go, but didn't have any real preference over location . . . price was more important to us.  We searched the net, including Thai websites, but it all seemed rather expensive.  So we spent over a month just driving to different areas of the island and asking stallholders, shopkeepers and resort staff about any land nearby that was available. 

 

You'll also see a few roadside signs in White Sand  Beach, Klong Prao and Kai Bae for real estate agents with land or shop units for lease and sale.  Two common themes crop up when people tell me about their experiences:

 

1) prices quoted are high but fortunately the well spoken Thai owner will always succeed in getting a good discount for you.  Wow, must be  a bargain if the price is 20% lower. (Either that or the price was significantly marked up initially.) 

 

2)  You get the usual bullshit - yes the land has a Chanote or Nor Sor Sam title (so you can easily build on it) but unfortunately you can't see the actual title deed.  This is crap, anyone wanting to sell or lease land will be able to provide a photocopy of the relevant title deed at short notice and without difficulty. 

 

If you encounter this scenario, you're probably being shown Por Bor Tor land who's owner hopes an upgrade soon and the hope is that you'll like the location, like the generous discount and will therefore eventually buy it regardless of title.  If you're planning a small resort, you need to be leasing or buying titled land.

 

Landlords

 

These fall into two camps - the businessman from the mainland who's bought up lots of land on the island; and the local family who were penniless until 10 years ago but now have land valued in the millions (of baht and often dollars) in their possession.  Early on we decided that we'd prefer to deal with locals rather than the business types this wasn't based on any one reason but just from the 'vibe' that we got when talking to landlords.  The guy we ended up renting land from is about 70 years old and has rented out all his land, regardless of location for the same price as he likes to keep things simple, he only rents to people he likes and as such it took a few visits to his house to convince him to rent his land to us. 

 

So, you find some land, agree a price and you sign a contract to rent it.  Most contracts are of a standard type, they are available for a few baht each in stationary shops across Thailand.  They're in Thai and may have a couple of clauses that you want to eliminate, such as the landlord has the right to sell the land anytime he likes and kick you off, but these can usually be crossed out easily enough.  You fill in the appropriate details, names, addresses, amount to be paid each year, term of contract and sign . . . .simple.

 

And it is simple, if you are renting for no longer than 3 years. ** This type of contract is legal for a maximum of 3 years only.** That's something I'll guarantee a minimum of 9 out of 10 landlords won't mention. 

 

So, if you want to build something substantial on the land you'll be looking to rent for a minimum of 9 years in order to make a profit & recoup your initial building costs.  It's very easy to simply write '9 years' or '15 years' as the length of rental period but unfortunately as soon as the three year mark passes it's irrelevant, the contract isn't valid and the landlord can take back the land anytime he likes.  You can give the land up or enter into a legal battle that will drag on for years.

 

In order for a rental contract for over 3 years to be legally valid it has to be registered at the government Land Office. Virtually none of these type of contracts are on Koh Chang and there have been cases with people on supposedly long contracts being told to leave when the owner of the land decides to sell it or develop it themself. 

 

To register the contract all that is involved are the lessee and lessor heading to Trat, signing the contract at the Land Office, paying a fee equivalent to one-thousandth of the total rental cost over the duration of the period of the lease and getting the contract stamped by a Land Official.  Nothing that is difficult or expensive to do, but something that the vast majority of landlords aren't interested in doing for their own, unmentioned reasons.

 

However, this is only possible if the land has a recognised title deed - e.g. Nor Sor 3, Nor Sor 3 Kor or Chanote.  If you are renting farmland then there is no way you can legally lease it for over 3 years - regardless of what the landowner may tell you.

 

The options for renting land/property longterm without registering a lease at the Land Office are limited to:

 

1) Inserting a remark on the initial 3 year agreement that the contract will be renewed for, in the example of a 9 year contract, two subsequent three year agreements and, if possible also shows the amount of rent which will be payable during the subsequent 3-year terms.  When the first contract expires you then sign another three year contract which includes a remark that this will be renewed for a further 3 years.  But you can't guarantee this renewal in any way

 

2) Don't seriously consider having the landlord sign postdated contracts for future three year terms, as you'd look a bit of an idiot trying to convince a judge that a contract dated 1 June 2012 should be considered legal when the landlord who signed it has been dead for five years.

 

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It's preferable to agree with the landlord, in writing, the rent that is payable as it's unlikely to remain fixed over a long period of time. Some contracts merely specify that the rent will increase annually but no amount or percentage is mentioned.  Unless you trust the landlord implicitly, how do you know that they wont see your business doing well and think that you should therefore pay 50% more rent the following year?  What would you do if the landlord asked for a huge rent increase?   Get an exact figure agreed to avoid arguments in the future.  Problems regarding increases in rent are common - there are ongoing court cases involving businesses on White Sand  Beach and Lonely beach who have this type of dispute with the landowner.

 

Costs

 

The cost of renting varies a great deal.  I'll go through a few of the west coast locations as it's highly unlikely that anyone looking to rent land would consider the east coast as you need to start making a return on your investment sooner rather than later.

 

White Sand  Beach is by far the most expensive location, you wont find any land for rent there and there's probably more chance of meeting Elvis in the street than finding an available, affordable shop unit.  Expect to pay a minimum of 10-12,000 baht/ month for a 3-metre x 4-metre concrete box on the main strip. Then all you have to do is figure out what you can sell from it to make the profits required to pay for this, plus a place to live and also allow for the main tourist season being less than 6 months long.  Prices for units go up to around 18,000 baht/month which is pretty crazy, in my opinion, if you're happy to pay this much then you might as well rent on Samui as you'll pay the same but have ten times as many people passing your shop.

 

Whatever you do, don't pay 'key money' for any unfurnished shop units.  It's bad enough with the Thai landlords asking unknowing foreigners to pay key money but, now there are some expat real estate agents who will try to convince you that you need to pay 500,000 baht on top of the monthly rent in order to secure a unit.  Total nonsense.  None of the Thais that will rent the units near yours are paying any key money and neither should you.  Always deal with the owner of the units direct, don't rent through an agent and be friendly but firm when it comes to key money.

 

Things are better further down the coast, a quick summary follows but remember that these are just a few of the more popular options. 

 

If renting a shop unit in a new Plaza is your thing then there are two plaza's at the very northern end of Klong Prao beach.  Rent is around the 6-8,000 baht/month mark.  After a slow start, the Plazas are looking  a bit livelier and some shops and restaurants attract a lot of business.  However, these tend to be located near the entrance to the plaza and not tucked away out of sight at the back. Units at the back tend to change owners every high season.

 

More shop units are being constructed in the Klong Prao village area and the area around the new Amari Emerald Cove Resort has a host of new shops - mainly opticians and tailors catering solely to hotel guests.  The shopping plaza here - Klong Prao Plaza - is by far the least successful on Koh Chang with a monthly rent of 6,000 baht/month for a unit with only a couple of units rented out since June '06.

 

The only people guaranteed to make money are those building and renting out the units.  Others who'll be happy to rent include anyone who can live like upcountry Thais and is happy to make 200 baht/day profit and sleep in the back of the shop unit and those with a bit of imagination. 

 

Virtually all the rentable land around Kai Bae is owned by a couple of local families.  In the northern end of Kai Bae the land that was available until mid-2005 went for about 80,000 baht/year for a 8 metre x 20 metre roadside plot - enough to build a shop, restaurant & accommodation but nothing more.  Shop units/houses near the entrance to Kai Bae Hut are around 8,000 baht/month and a large new detached building for use as living accommodation plus a restaurant or large shop will set you back 200,000 baht/year.  The two plazas in Kai Bae rent units for around 10,000 baht/month.  But as you can probably guess it's only the units that actually lie on the roadside that get any custom and the plaza management, despite initial good intentions, seem intent on putting off new lesses by allowing wooden beer bars to open up on all open areas of the plaza.  '339 Plaza' is the prime example of this, nicely built but badly designed, the roadside units were rented quickly, those inside the plaza & hidden from view rarely see a customer and most are vacant.  Having beer bars lit with garish fairy lights doesn't attract hotel guests to spend their money in the shops here - but why should the plaza owner care about the people who rent the units?  In June 2007, construction on more small boxlike, shop units on the roadside nearby began. 

 

Moving a couple of kilometres south to Lonely Beach and the roadside shanty town of swimwear shops, restaurants and bars.  The recent increase in the sheer numbers of small shops, slummy bungalows and bars means that it's hard to make money here now if you lack imagination.    The lack of space means that if you do find a few square metres to rent you'll have to be very up close and personal with your neighbours, and shouldn't count on getting to sleep early.  On the plus side it's far cheaper than Kai Bae.  Jan '08 and Lonely Beach is still growing, more shops, new roadside bungalow resorts are springing up and it is still possible to find small shops or plots of land to rent but fickle backpackers make up 90% of the custom so having experience dealing with them and knowing their tastes is a big plus.  

 

Bailan is the last bay on the west coast and until recently was still home to only a couple of backpacker resorts.  However, since late 2003 at least three new bungalow resorts and one mid-price 35 room resort have been built and a large 90 room resort, Princess Resort, which will be managed by the Dusit Hotel group is under construction & will be open for the 2007-08 tourist season.  This is where we originally rented land.  We got hold of one rai of land roadside, about 40 metres roadside frontage in the centre of the hamlet for 35,000 baht/year.  (In the end we didn't have the  time to do anything with the land and so gave it back to the owner.)  Within a year or two they'll be a load of shop units to rent here with vendors vying for the attention of the Princess Resort's guests.

 

There's not a lot that's conveniently located and also rentable in the Bangbao area.  If you want to sell something you need to rent a house in the village and they're extremely hard to come by. Land owners are looking to sell as a large resort, Nirvana, distorted land prices a couple of years ago by paying a huge premium for land which bordered another plot that sold for 300,000 baht/rai only a few months earlier. The lack of buildings in Bangbao also means that a small house in need of total renovation can fetch 2.5 million baht.  Real bargains are no longer possible to find, but if you are interested in renting as house / small shops sometimes come up for rent and they re only advertised by notices pinned to shutters or lamp posts. New shop units, on the road into Bangbao have been available for rental from early 2006 onwards but there haven't been many takers.  The location is wrong for any business that requires foot traffic as at present everyone drives by to the main parking areas and then walks down the pier.  If the parking areas are relocated away from the pier then these units will see customers, if not then I'll bet they remain empty. Early 2008 and the units mentioned above are still available for rent.

 

If all else fails then you still have the option of renting land for a karaoke bar somewhere around Klong Prao.  Rent is usually 2,000 baht/month and you will need some mates who are familiar with knocking up overlarge wooden huts using the cheapest materials available and scrap metal. No planning permission is required as you won't be building your new dream karaoke bar/restaurant/motorbike rental shop with foundations of any kind, so it isn't classed as a permanent structure. 

 

Other costs that can add significantly to your monthly outlay are electricity, water and phone bills.  Always ask if the electricity bill will come from the state electricity company or from the landlord.  If it's from the landlord you'll be paying a large mark up per unit. The real price of electricity is around 5 baht/unit.  6-7 baht/unit is common and it's not unheard of for landlords to charge 8 -10 baht/unit.  If you're running AC units, large refrigerators etc all day this 'surcharge' will add at least a couple of thousand baht a month onto your electricity bill.  Water will come from a private source as there is no central water supply.  It may be free, it may be charged at a token rate - say 100 baht/month or it may be metered and charged at 15 baht/cubic metre.  This is the same as is charged in luxury apartments in Bangkok and will result in you calculating if it's really necessary to shower daily. 

 

If you're lucky enough to have a phone line installed, the bill should come via either the TOT or CAT phone company.  All local calls, e.g. to hook up to the internet are 3 baht, regardless of length. Calls abroad to most countries are now 6 or 7 baht/minute.  So, if you have a phone line and find yourself paying per minute or 10 baht per local call, you'll know why your landlord is always smiling.  If you have a phone line then you can apply for ADSL from TOT or CAT, expect to wait a month or so to get hooked up though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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